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"HammerheadFistpunch" (hammerheadfistpunch) 06/17/2014 at 16:04 • Filed to: Truck Yeah

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Picking my way through the !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! / !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! guides that were recently "leaked" I finally get an idea of dimensions.

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A Colorado long bed 4x4 crew cab in comparison to the class champ Toyota Tacoma is different in the following dimensions:

.1 inch shorter wheelbase

3.7 inches longer overall

.4 inches narrower

.3 inches higher

with 69 more hp (at higher rpms) and 3 more ft-lbs (again at higher rpms)

The unknowns remain mileage and weight.

As you can see, size is very much holding steady with very little bloat (and in some cases shrinkage) from the nearly decade old Tacoma. The only difference is in the interior, where the slightly larger Tacoma is better head, hip and leg room in almost every category with the exception of rear leg room and front hip room.

Also interesting to note is that the minimum ground clearance is almost a full inch less that the Tacoma.

This isn't going to be what the Chevy Luv'ers want to hear, but it does mean that the substantial looking trucks aren't actually going to be THAT big, which reinforces something I've been blue in the face telling people; YES THEY ARE SMALLER THAN FULL SIZE TRUCKS, EVEN OLDER MODELS.

Mr. FiSTer of Team FiST Fetish > HammerheadFistpunch 06/17/2014 at 16:09

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The European Canyon is better though..

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > HammerheadFistpunch 06/17/2014 at 16:22

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This "Chevy luv'er" (I see what you did there lol) is happy about it. I want a smaller truck with 4 doors and decent gas mileage. I can only hope they follow through with that last statement. Going with the V6 they are using as opposed to the 4.3L HAD to be a mileage decision.

Nothing > HammerheadFistpunch 06/17/2014 at 16:23

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As many others have said, I hope it sells well and that Toyota finally gets around to a mechanical update for the Tacoma. I prefer the Tacoma overall, but it needs some more oomph. I do like the looks at the GM twins, though.

HammerheadFistpunch > MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner 06/17/2014 at 16:24

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I still don't get that one, cause the 4.3 is physically smaller and lighter and frankly, gets pretty great mileage in the new silverado...my guess is they wanted:

1. zero cross shopping

2. lower NVH for a more "car like" experience.

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > Mr. FiSTer of Team FiST Fetish 06/17/2014 at 16:25

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oh stop it.

Does it look a little close to the VW truck? Sure

but the global Ford Ranger does too, they all do. It's what happens when you give a little concern to aerodynamics on a light pickup, it ends up with rounded front corner and a stubby bed.

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > HammerheadFistpunch 06/17/2014 at 16:28

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if it gets the MPG it needs i couldn't care less. My hope is to get one of these in a few years, it's biggest towing duties would be a 5k pound trailer once or twice a year, which it should happily handle with a 7k limit (which I wouldn't pull 7k with it anyhow).

After that I just want a nice Daily Driver that can run small things over with little concern lol.

BTW I'm a big 4.3L fan, and have owned both of the prior generations in an 88 s10 blazer 2 door -TBI version and a vortec set up in on 04 4 door blazer.

Great motors, lots of grunt. These have over 100 more hp than the 4.3L's I'm used to, sure it comes at a higher RPM like a car but the power is there.

HammerheadFistpunch > Nothing 06/17/2014 at 16:32

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The Tacoma needs only 3 things to be super competative:

1. the dual VVT-i engine from the 4runner (270 hp and 278 ft-lbs vs 236 hp and 266 ft-lbs for the single VVT-i engine currently)

2. a better less cheap dash

3. a 6 speed auto.

Nothing else needs changing AT ALL.

FJ80WaitinForaLSV8 > HammerheadFistpunch 06/17/2014 at 16:32

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could have also been a capacity/utilization issue with their production facilities. Although from what I understand the 4.3 is selling well in the Silverado.

HammerheadFistpunch > MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner 06/17/2014 at 16:35

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The torque peak on the 3.6 is pretty great actually, but I still think the 4.3 would have been a better truck motor. large displacement and low end torque are the biggest redeeming values of the Tacoma engine. Either way, this should fit the bill. You'll be stressing this thing out with 5000 lbs still I think, but at least the chassis should be able to deal with it. Something tells me that 7000 lbs number isn't with the new SAE rating.

HammerheadFistpunch > Mr. FiSTer of Team FiST Fetish 06/17/2014 at 16:35

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The Amorok is the saddest looking truck I've ever seen go off-road, even kitted out it looks so tippy and out of place. Pass.

HammerheadFistpunch > FJ80WaitinForaLSV8 06/17/2014 at 16:37

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I hope so, its a killer engine and I love the fact that you get a big power bump on e85...finally a use for that crap. It would be nice to switch fuels for a big power gain when towing real heavy loads (even if your mileage takes a dump). On a related note, the 4.56/33 inch gear/tire combo worked great towing the 3300 lbs popup over the mountains this weekend.

Nothing > HammerheadFistpunch 06/17/2014 at 16:38

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I agree, precisely the mechanical upgrades I was speaking of.

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > HammerheadFistpunch 06/17/2014 at 16:39

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lol it should do better than the Mercury Mountaineer V6 (RWD) that my in-laws pull it with currently that has a max of 5,000 at least.

They are going to use my brother in laws new (very used) Ranger that supposedly has a max tow of 6k I think this year.

better than the Mountaineer I guess, but when/if I get one of these in a few years it'll take over those duties. At least the camper doesn't move much and we don't load anything into it to add to the weight.

HammerheadFistpunch > MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner 06/17/2014 at 16:42

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It will cream the cruiser in towing duties too if and when the diesel replaces it.

I pulled a 3300-3500 popup over the mountains here this last weekend...whew. WE made it without trouble but 212 hp for 9000 lbs of combined vehicle. Even the 4.56 gears could only do so much. Funny true story, the i6 in the cruiser has more torque than this new 3.6, and VERY low down on the tach....but a little extra hp sure would be nice.

ly2v8-Brian > HammerheadFistpunch 06/17/2014 at 16:46

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Just as long as I can get the diesel with 2wd when that comes out.

HammerheadFistpunch > ly2v8-Brian 06/17/2014 at 16:47

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Tough to say at this point.

FJ80WaitinForaLSV8 > HammerheadFistpunch 06/17/2014 at 16:51

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I meant to say not selling well. They have been putting massive cash on the hood to move the V6 models.

Glad to hear she towed well!

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > HammerheadFistpunch 06/17/2014 at 16:52

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I6's tend to be that way lol

and one of the best parts about our towing duties is that it's 100% flat.

we can even avoid highways and take almost deserted side roads at 55 mph.

BeaterGT > HammerheadFistpunch 06/17/2014 at 17:00

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All I know is the Colorado looked awesome at the NYIAS. Fuck what the front page thinks.

HammerheadFistpunch > BeaterGT 06/17/2014 at 17:08

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its a good looking truck, but im of the opinion that a vehicle needs to be catastrophically ugly or mechanically uninteresting to loose my attention.

BeaterGT > HammerheadFistpunch 06/17/2014 at 17:22

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So what you're telling me is...a Nissan Juke is not on your list to own?

HammerheadFistpunch > BeaterGT 06/17/2014 at 17:24

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Thats about the size of...though if they would let me have the awd and a stick....it might be.